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I read in the Blog that Jan has a work like that. The way that I learned it is gleich means equal. For something to be equal to something else you have to have more than one for comparison. So, dasselbe is 1 thing, point in time, etc Gleich is 2 or more that are identical to one another.
German Language Blog. Thank you! The owner of it will not be notified. Only the user who asked this question will see who disagreed with this answer. Featured answer. Remember that MOST native speakers are not able to remember or follow this rule, or even hear any difference if you use "dasselbe" or "das Gleiche" wrong. Only highly educated speakers would notice a difference. I for myself don't know a single person who pays attention to grammar while speaking.
Read more comments. Your examples are fringe cases. For objects you can touch, the distinction is simple: Das selbe means one and the same instance of something, das gleiche means a different, but similar copy. Now, can you say the same word twice, or is it a different instance, a copy of the same word?
It depends on what aspect of a word you're looking at. Hard to decide, and I'd rather get used to saying das gleiche , just to avoid accidentally saying das selbe when such a strong meaning wasn't intended.
This mistake is made often even by native speakers. Sogar die Sendung mit der Maus hat diese Frage schon mal beantwortet ; selbe-gleiche. Assume that you have a car. If I crashed "das gleiche Auto", you won't be very angry.
But if I crashed "dasselbe Auto", you will be. Add a comment. Active Oldest Votes. There is a difference: Ich trage das gleiche Kleid wie Maria. Maria and I are physically wearing two different dresses, but they are the same kind and design. Ich trage dasselbe Kleid, das ich bei meinem Geburtstag anhatte. I am wearing the same dress.
It's physically the same item. Improve this answer. RegDwight 2, 1 1 gold badge 20 20 silver badges 33 33 bronze badges. ApoY2k well, it's a question of philosophy: Do you think two instances of one and the same thought are perfect twins, or do you think there is only one concept for the thought, and everyone thinking it actually thinks the same thought , as if they share a mind?
I think it boils down to whether you think in terms of instances or prototypes objects and classes, if you know object-oriented programming. If people wear das selbe Kleid , they are sharing it. Die Sendung mit der Maus covered this topic a few years ago: youtube. ApoY2k In this exact context regarding a dress, no, unless that person sold or lent you that dress to wear : — takrl. Sounds like "das Gleiche" can be translated as "identical" looks the same or works the same way and "dasselbe" literally -is- the same, i.
Is this too simplistic? Jemus42 Jemus42 1, 7 7 silver badges 11 11 bronze badges. To remember the difference between "das Gleiche" und "dasselbe", you could use the german saying Sie gleichen sich wie ein Ei dem anderen Two eggs look identically, so "das Gleiche" means "looks like but is not the same". I sometimes think the Java programming language was created by Germans, because it makes the exact same distinction as the German language: todaysLunch.
Translation: two different ways of referring to the same physical Entity. Most languages distinguish between identity and equality like that, methinks.
Tim would that be natural or programming languages? Could you provide examples? This is a concept known to all I think object-oriented languages, not only Java.
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